The panel began the episode by discussing President-elect Trump’s upcoming inauguration after a decisive election victorylast year. Westen predicted that there would be chaos leading up to the inauguration.
Murr disagreed, predicting that there will be a peaceful transfer of power, and emphasized that he hopes Trump’s second term will finally bring an end to the civil unrest we’ve seen from the “left” for the last several years.
“You know what I’ve seen that I just would not have believed it possible not so many years ago in my country, in the United States of America – the civil unrest … from the left. I had seen that in Europe, and I’d seen it in Latin America, but I always considered, maybe incorrectly, obviously, that they were not so stable in their political mind as the United States and as Canada and parts of Europe also … until I saw what was happening on the streets of the United States in 2016. And then the burning of our cities and downing of monuments (in 2020), that didn’t seem to me like it was the United States of America,” Murr said.
Still, the priest added that what gives him hope is that the civil unrest lost much of its momentum in 2024.
“I think it’s lost a lot of its wind; I think it’s lost a lot of its power because this last election happened relatively peacefully. And it happened that the majority won (a) clean and clear majority, that’s obvious to anyone. So anyone who really believes in democracy can’t rebuff that,” he said.
A bit later, Westen predicted Vice President-elect J.D. Vance would attend this year’s March for Life in person, and Trump would likely call in to the event.
Murr agreed and addressed Trump’s apparent changing stances on pro-life issues, highlighting that leaders can change once they come into power.
“Politics is politics, and you have to do and say quite a number of things to get elected. Once you’re elected, I’ve seen people change. I really have seen people change and get more in tune with what the truth is, (and) I have that hope. I hold out that hope for Trump also in 2025,” the priest said.
Later in the episode, the panel turned to the Vatican, where speculation of a conclave taking place this year is mounting as Pope Francis’ health continues to worsen. Murr predicted that there will indeed be a conclave this year.
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