tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post724030737089067000..comments2024-03-27T10:07:17.492-04:00Comments on A Priest Life ((((,,)))): Holy Mass and the hermeneutic of continuityFather Kevin M Cusick http://www.blogger.com/profile/04460394747724581336noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-77405412201000468762009-12-07T10:01:27.584-05:002009-12-07T10:01:27.584-05:00Just for clarification:
"Biretta" is th...Just for clarification:<br /><br />"Biretta" is the priest's liturgical head covering.<br /><br />"Beretta" is the manufacturer of the standard military 9mm pistol.<br /><br />I bet Father Johnson knows how to use both.<br /><br />I was also a Navy officer and spent many nights on a similar living barge in the shipyard. Unfortunately we did not have Mass on board. God bless Father Johnson and all the Navy people who spend so long away from their families and the sacraments. Most smaller ships do not have Chaplains along.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13612175508253464193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-3077351016216718642009-07-21T11:57:11.279-04:002009-07-21T11:57:11.279-04:00Father Johnson offered the following comments:
&q...Father Johnson offered the following comments:<br /><br />"1. The idea that if something is not mentioned in the GIRM it is forbidden comes from a reply back in the late 70’s (I believe) from the CDW: namely, if something in the rubrics is left vague or undetermined, it is not to be presumed that the older rubrics should be used.<br />Now, this interpretation was basically quashed about seven (?) years ago, when the same Congregation stated in so many words that this kind of continuity was legitimate.<br /><br />"The same kind of objection could be raised about the biretta, the burse, the practice of wiping away water on the inside of the chalice at the Presentation of the Gifts, etc.<br /><br />"Finally, isn’t the whole point of this discussion about the 'hermeneutic of continuity'? If the opponents say that there should only be the minimal use of anything traditional in the ceremonies, then isn’t that a partial (or entire even) rejection of continuity?<br /><br />"2. Also, considering the exigencies of Mass in the military, it isn’t possible usually to have a lectern, lectors, an instituted acolyte, etc. So, there is a certain amount of freedom in adapting the rites, I would think; and that is why I basically use the “Ordo Missae sine Populo [in the sense of the canonical congregation].” After all, the AMS in the person of the Vicar General once allowed Mass without all the vestments (save a stole). How is that less a departure from the GIRM than using the 'sine Populo' form? At least with my method, I am falling back on a legitimate and foreseen form, rather than using a historically unprecedented abandonment of Catholic ceremonial."<br /><br />-- Father JohnsonFather Kevin M Cusick https://www.blogger.com/profile/04460394747724581336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-39098964822138708342009-07-18T18:52:02.460-04:002009-07-18T18:52:02.460-04:00How is the act of spreading the corporal on the al...How is the act of spreading the corporal on the altar before Mass, "...reviv[ing] silly pre-Conciliar practices?" What is "silly" about this?Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929374709032473716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-63233555403086348882009-07-17T16:43:53.664-04:002009-07-17T16:43:53.664-04:00You appear to be following the ceremonial directio...You appear to be following the ceremonial directions given in the 1975 Missal for "Mass Without and Congregation."<br /><br />These provisions differ from those in the 2003 Missal for "Mass With Only One Server."<br /><br />Only in a 1975-style "Mass Without a Congregation" is the corporal spread and the chalice placed on the altar at the beginning of the Mass.<br /><br />Why do you hold up this outdated usage as an ideal? <br /><br />To say that the celebrant's facing east during the Eucharistic Prayer (for example) is reflective of the "Hermeneutic of Continuity" would be entirely reasonable. But to revive silly pre-Conciliar practices such as placing the chalice on the altar at the beginning of the Mass is simply silly.<br /><br />The "Hermeneutic of Continuity" does not call for indiscriminate revival of pre-Conciliar practices in contravention of the rubrics of the Novus Ordo. It calls for the interpretation of the Novus Ordo rubrics in the light of tradition.<br /><br />Bruce E. Ford<br />Newark, New JerseyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-73263489352812988682009-07-14T22:00:41.195-04:002009-07-14T22:00:41.195-04:00Nicholas Dollar wrote:
Dear Father,
I wanted to ...Nicholas Dollar wrote:<br /><br />Dear Father,<br /><br />I wanted to commend you for your excellent post of Holy Mass on the FAF (Jul 12)--very cool...thank you for your good work.<br /><br />Pax,<br />NicolasFather Kevin M Cusick https://www.blogger.com/profile/04460394747724581336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-85490416394605573212009-07-14T16:04:31.675-04:002009-07-14T16:04:31.675-04:00Thank you for this interesting post.Thank you for this interesting post.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07929374709032473716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9166707017159628029.post-17429901657066577892009-07-13T01:09:56.035-04:002009-07-13T01:09:56.035-04:00how it is to be in your place Sir? im just wanderi...how it is to be in your place Sir? im just wandering..to be in that kind of place and have that experience is a one of a kind thing..MrRkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15768830796707214734noreply@blogger.com